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4 years award - how long does BotR actualy exists?

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So many of you won't even know me (anymore) since im lurking most of the time in the shadows..

Since i got my 4 years award a couple of days ago i've been wondering how long BotR actualy exists. Couldn't find anything and tbh im too lazy to check what the oldest Thread in here is (if it's actualy still here).
So do we have founder members here or does someone know how old we are?
 

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So many of you won't even know me (anymore) since im lurking most of the time in the shadows..

Since i got my 4 years award a couple of days ago i've been wondering how long BotR actualy exists. Couldn't find anything and tbh im too lazy to check what the oldest Thread in here is (if it's actualy still here).
So do we have founder members here or does someone know how old we are?
@Dartie is the creator of the clan, but I think the most accurate way to get insight into the history of the clan is by looking at this thread:
http://brigandshaven.net/threads/the-history-of-botr.470/

I might have to update to fit more recent history.
 

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Well the fact is Botr predates this forum, as well as the forum we used before it. If you check out the creation date on http://classic.battle.net/war3/ladder/war3-clan-profile.aspx?Gateway=Northrend&ClanTag=BotR you can see its may 2012, but thier may well have been activity before then (most notably through the clan Lhot, see the post Arlt linked for info). As I´ve understood it the clans original home was diplomunion, but around 2013 it got its own forum. I joined actively around then (not completely sure about the dates), having been a passive member previously.
 

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Yeah i've been aware that the forum isnt close to the original founding date. Arlt's link is missing the newer history tho, but that's anyways not what i've been asking for.
Thanks for the quick reply guys :)
 

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Yeah i've been aware that the forum isnt close to the original founding date. Arlt's link is missing the newer history tho, but that's anyways not what i've been asking for.
Thanks for the quick reply guys :)
Well Smyl, who wrote the post in question, hasn´t been active lately so it would need to be updated by someone currently active.
 

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BotR has been relatively quiet for the whole of 2017-2018. Not inactive, but quiet.
 

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Yea i joined in late 2013; at the time i was playing on ENT and accidentally entered an L:TA game (silverhand) - i was so hyped and confused i quit the game and checked it out on single player.
Saw the clan from Haralds youtube channel and shortly joined.
A lot of people have stayed on the website and are active despite not playing the game which is amazing.
The golden ages were in 2014-2015 tho, we had 2 almost full clans with active players and L:TA was still fresh and updated by Marsh every month.
Hopefully warcraft reforged brings the website to new highs!
 

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Yea i joined in late 2013; at the time i was playing on ENT and accidentally entered an L:TA game (silverhand) - i was so hyped and confused i quit the game and checked it out on single player.
Saw the clan from Haralds youtube channel and shortly joined.
A lot of people have stayed on the website and are active despite not playing the game which is amazing.
The golden ages were in 2014-2015 tho, we had 2 almost full clans with active players and L:TA was still fresh and updated by Marsh every month.
Hopefully warcraft reforged brings the website to new highs!
Well Most maps are now broken and WC3 playerbase is kinda dead so not much to do in the game tbh. Keen to grow for Reforged tho things are looking Grim dark considering Blizzard's current status and stock nose dive.
 

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Well Most maps are now broken and WC3 playerbase is kinda dead so not much to do in the game tbh. Keen to grow for Reforged tho things are looking Grim dark considering Blizzard's current status and stock nose dive.
Most? Like which ones?
 

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Most? Like which ones?
Majority the triggers for events are the same copies from LTA. Apart from that most copied factions still use the same models and spells. You honestly want me to name every event and model that was taken from LTA?
 

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Majority the triggers for events are the same copies from LTA. Apart from that most copied factions still use the same models and spells. You honestly want me to name every event and model that was taken from LTA?
Just because the Azeroth Wars and LTA-style maps are in for a beating atm doesnt mean the custom map scene is dead. Plenty of people still play.
 

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Just because the Azeroth Wars and LTA-style maps are in for a beating atm doesnt mean the custom map scene is dead. Plenty of people still play.
Yeah, LTA/LTF and AWLR only have a fraction of the total playerbase.
 

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Just because the Azeroth Wars and LTA-style maps are in for a beating atm doesnt mean the custom map scene is dead. Plenty of people still play.
Yea I never meant that. Macro maps are indeed only very very small part of total community but overall the community has been declining as a whole. Log in to Battle.net any day and it shows you peak is 3500 players max. I expected Remaster news to change that a bit but that did not seem to have much effect. Now imagine out of those 3500 how many of them are melee players. One would assume vast majority. So yea not many people left tbh. The entire community got a massive hit after the ENT and bot removal debacle as well broken patches.
 

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Yea I never meant that. Macro maps are indeed only very very small part of total community but overall the community has been declining as a whole. Log in to Battle.net any day and it shows you peak is 3500 players max. I expected Remaster news to change that a bit but that did not seem to have much effect. Now imagine out of those 3500 how many of them are melee players. One would assume vast majority. So yea not many people left tbh. The entire community got a massive hit after the ENT and bot removal debacle as well broken patches.
It will make a comeback with Reforged. We're gonna build a strong foundation for bringing new people to the fold. A massive surge of new players will join in and we have to be active on the recruitment scene when that happens. Reforged is gonna be great for the community in general, better than stickint with ENT and MMHs shaky solutions for all eternity imo.
 

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Majority the triggers for events are the same copies from LTA. Apart from that most copied factions still use the same models and spells. You honestly want me to name every event and model that was taken from LTA?
I wanted you to list the broken maps.
 

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It will make a comeback with Reforged. We're gonna build a strong foundation for bringing new people to the fold. A massive surge of new players will join in and we have to be active on the recruitment scene when that happens. Reforged is gonna be great for the community in general, better than stickint with ENT and MMHs shaky solutions for all eternity imo.
I agree, It seems like that's what Blizzard is hoping for as well. They even took the original out of the Market so you can't buy it anymore this way people who are excited and want to comeback for nostalgia have to wait for reforged rather than buying and playing original again then not bothering with buying reforged. I'm not sure if you can play the original anymore if you don't have it already since you can't buy a copy. Does anyone know if you pre-order reforged you can play the original or nah?

I wanted you to list the broken maps.
Oh I see now what the confusion is about. By most maps I meant the Marshmalo maps and AWLR. I was replying to Vidovit in regards to him saying most people on this website no longer play the game which makes cause most maps on this website who we used to play are broken. I believe famous custom maps such as Legion TD or Custom hero survival got fixed fast after the update, those ones are immortal as they are easier to edit and due to popularity there is always someone who updates them fast when needed.
 

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Does anyone know if you pre-order reforged you can play the original or nah?
I see you're not following the news. Yes, starting on December 1st, everyone who pre-orders Reforged gets Warcraft 3 Classic for free and gets to play it via Battle.net app.
 

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Oh I see now what the confusion is about. By most maps I meant the Marshmalo maps and AWLR. I was replying to Vidovit in regards to him saying most people on this website no longer play the game which makes cause most maps on this website who we used to play are broken. I believe famous custom maps such as Legion TD or Custom hero survival got fixed fast after the update, those ones are immortal as they are easier to edit and due to popularity there is always someone who updates them fast when needed.
Ahem, well not all my maps are not broken thankyou, I don't like this kind of generalisation. Zombie Rising, PDOM and ROAR are more or less stable, infact ROAR is oddly more stable since 1.30.1 than it was before.

LTF 0.27 seems to be fairing ok, maybe Wooden did something to optimise the stability, but as Draupne says its mostly just the LTA/Azz Wars scale maps that may not surive Reforged and are struggling right now, which includes LTF.

Smaller scale maps arnt broken, atleast not for now. I havnt tried ROTV or SOQ since 1.30.1. Spectator, I must say you seem very doom and gloom about Warcraft lately, I'm sure its not going to be as cataclysmic as you imagine! :D
 

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Yea i joined in late 2013; at the time i was playing on ENT and accidentally entered an L:TA game (silverhand) - i was so hyped and confused i quit the game and checked it out on single player.
Saw the clan from Haralds youtube channel and shortly joined.
A lot of people have stayed on the website and are active despite not playing the game which is amazing.
The golden ages were in 2014-2015 tho, we had 2 almost full clans with active players and L:TA was still fresh and updated by Marsh every month.
Hopefully warcraft reforged brings the website to new highs!
If you joined cuz of Harald in 2013 and I added Harald when dafuq did I join, I must have been like 12 years old.
 
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