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Game of Thrones (A Warcraft III Map project)

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WOW, this is just what I need. THANKS SO MUCH!!!

edit: How do I get this to work? I put it in imports under many paths with /UI but it won't work. Also put it in the UI folder in my directory per instructions.
also put the terrain file in the appropriate folder, reset editor, etc
Try putting them in documents WC3 folder, not actual game client folder, also for MiscData path try to remove war3imported/ and keep it that way and tell me how it goes.
Also take a look at this, might be useful.
 

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Try putting them in documents WC3 folder, not actual game client folder, also for MiscData path try to remove war3imported/ and keep it that way and tell me how it goes.
Also take a look at this, might be useful.
IT WORKS!!!!!!!! WESTEROS HERE WE COME!
 

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I feel like 24 players is too much to fill a game.... 15 might be better... although still tough to fill.
Here's my list so far. Should I add or remove any starting factions?
Winter - Snow
Free Folk - Dark Green
Night's Watch - Coal
Stark - Grey
Tully - Blue
Iron Islands - Brown
Arryn - Light Blue
Lannister - Yellow
Baratheon - Maroon
Tyrell - Green
Martell - Orange
Free CIties - Purple
Ghiscari - Wheat
Dothraki - Peanut
Daenerys - Red

Any thoughts?
 

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I wouldnt make Free Folk a faction. But make winter push south conquering rebel towns and allow the Night Watch to get free folk units and heroes trough events and spawns.

You may want to add Bolton, The North is big and can allow more factions if you want. They could stay allied with Stark and Tully or betray to join Lannisters.
You may also add Manderly if you want, with some kind of event to reconquer their lands in the Reach and get a new realm in the eastern part of it, so the Tyrell are not so safe in a so big area.
The frey are also a good choice, due to lore. But both Bolton and Frey could be swaped to Lannister getting spawned bases, units and heroes in the Boltons/Frey holdings.

You may also add "Aegon" in the east, so he can invade Westeros too, and allow him to side with the Free cities or with Daenerys.

So teams would be:
- Stark & Tully.
- Lannister & Baratheon (i guess Baratheon is Cersei).
- Arryn, Tyrell, Iron Isles and Martell starting as neutrals. With Iron Isles and Arryn being able to side with Stark or Lannister and Martell and Tyrell being able to side with Targaryen or Lannister.
- Free cities & Aegon. With Aegon being able to side with Daenerys. And free cities being able to serve the Dothrakis.
- Daenerys.
- Ghiscari. Being able to serve Daenerys.
- Dothraki.
- Night Watch. Allied with everyone but Winter. Maybe everybody should be able to send him troops or money.
- Winter. Enemy of everyone, gets boosts whenever he conquers a base.

Oh, you could also add "The Faith", with small bases all around southern westeros and the capital in Oldtown. They start allied with all westerosi, but can choose to condemn pagans (Stark and Iron Isles) and incest (Baratheon and Targaryen) to steal their holdings.

Just as some quick ideas :)
 

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I think Lannisters should be red and Targaryens should be marron, Baratheons should be yellow, I think these colors make more sense.
 
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About colours:

Winter - Grey, light blue or blue. Both white walkers and zombies are "grey" and their most distinct feature is blue eyes.
Free Folk - Brown. They are dirty and weird brown fur clothes. (though i wouldnt add them as faction).
Night's Watch - Coal
Stark - White. Their banner is white, the only grey is the wolf.
Tully - Blue
Iron Islands - Yellow for their kraken as night watch is black. Some kind of dark blue due to they belonging to the sea. Or even a brown for their dark clothes and armours made of leather.
Arryn - Light Blue
Lannister - Red. Their banner is red, only the lion is yellow.
Baratheon - Yellow. Their banner is yellow, only the deer is black. If it is used some kind of green would fit perfectly, since the realm is full of woods.
Tyrell - Dark Green or emerald. You can choose dark green or emerald (they look like the same xD), but "green" is too shiny in my opinion.
Martell - Orange
Free CIties - Purple
Ghiscari - Wheat
Dothraki - Peanut
Daenerys - Vermilion. Idk if that is the proper name in english. Is dark red colour. It would fit the mix of red+black of the Targaryen. And if im not wrong the Targaryen drake is darker than the lannister banner, which is more shiny.

If you like any of my suggested factions:
Bolton - Pink. For their banner and the colour of skin and flesh.
Manderly - Turquese. Aquamarine. Idk which is its proper name in english. Or even teal. Their colour is a mix of blue and green.
Frey - Grey. Or if it is already used, some kind of blue.
Aegon - Yellow if it is not used (due to the golden company he leads). Or any colour you may like.
 

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I wouldnt make Free Folk a faction. But make winter push south conquering rebel towns and allow the Night Watch to get free folk units and heroes trough events and spawns.

You may want to add Bolton, The North is big and can allow more factions if you want. They could stay allied with Stark and Tully or betray to join Lannisters.
You may also add Manderly if you want, with some kind of event to reconquer their lands in the Reach and get a new realm in the eastern part of it, so the Tyrell are not so safe in a so big area.
The frey are also a good choice, due to lore. But both Bolton and Frey could be swaped to Lannister getting spawned bases, units and heroes in the Boltons/Frey holdings.

You may also add "Aegon" in the east, so he can invade Westeros too, and allow him to side with the Free cities or with Daenerys.

So teams would be:
- Stark & Tully.
- Lannister & Baratheon (i guess Baratheon is Cersei).
- Arryn, Tyrell, Iron Isles and Martell starting as neutrals. With Iron Isles and Arryn being able to side with Stark or Lannister and Martell and Tyrell being able to side with Targaryen or Lannister.
- Free cities & Aegon. With Aegon being able to side with Daenerys. And free cities being able to serve the Dothrakis.
- Daenerys.
- Ghiscari. Being able to serve Daenerys.
- Dothraki.
- Night Watch. Allied with everyone but Winter. Maybe everybody should be able to send him troops or money.
- Winter. Enemy of everyone, gets boosts whenever he conquers a base.

Oh, you could also add "The Faith", with small bases all around southern westeros and the capital in Oldtown. They start allied with all westerosi, but can choose to condemn pagans (Stark and Iron Isles) and incest (Baratheon and Targaryen) to steal their holdings.

Just as some quick ideas :)
Thanks for the feedback.
I don't know how I feel about Winter vs Night's Watch as a 1v1... I like Free Folk to mix things up, also they are a big part of the books. 1v1v1 is favorable, if they can ally NW for 2v1. Winter OP so...
I want to add more Westeros factions but I feel like Essos should have priority. 11 in Westeros and only 4 in Essos.
Other Houses will be there but not a major faction until used for a 2nd chance/path/alliance change.
Aegon enters the story in Dance of Dragons doing pretty much nothing until then and has very little relevance... not enough material in the books for a playable faction but maybe a path for Free Cities.
Baratheon is Stannis. King Joffrey/Cersei are the same player, Lannister.
Yeah more or less those teams. 1v1v1 up north. 2v2v1 down south with 3 neutral parties that will step in to mix it up as the game unfolds. Adding anymore might upset the balance unless we go for a 24 player version. Again I think Essos needs more, 1v1v1v1 is gonna be interesting but if everyone just joins Dany it could make for bad gameplay with her arriving way too early in Westeros. I want to add 2-3 to Essos before I add anything to Westeros.
Faith concept is interesting... maybe for a 2nd chance faction.

I think Lannisters should be red and Targaryens should be marron, Baratheons should be yellow, I think these colors make more sense.
Interesting... I see your points, in terms of the most color of the original sigil/flag - those colors make more sense. But, the lore is why I gave those colors.
Yellow (Gold) for Lannister since they have a golden lion on their sigil and gold rich lands.
Maroon for Baratheon (Stannis) being his new faith in R'hllor and his modified sigil which incorporates the symbols, plus Melisandre the red priestess who's robes are pretty much maroon.
Red for Daenerys because the dragons on the sigil are bright red like blood, not dark red Maroon.


Maybe I'll switch the colors around a bit... hmmm, gonna think about it a bit more.
 

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To talk about the number of factions we should first see which area of the map do you plan to add. You say 11 in westeros and 4 in essos is unbalanced, but unless you go too far to the east, westeros is much bigger than essos. Also, there is no much more other stuff in esso to add, maybe volantis?

Aegon as free cities path is nice.

Oh, Stannis! Right! Since they ruined him in GoT i forgot about him xD. Then i think you should add "The Crown" as faction. Otherway Lannisters will always lose. Stark and Tully vs Lannisters and Stannis vs Lannisters? Or Lannisters get Tyrell, Martell and Arryn as allies or they lose. With The Crown it would be more paired. Also, some players dont play well with "divided lands", and start with lands in west and east with the tully in the middle of your forces, can be a mess. This would also allow you to add more cool heroes: Tywin, Jaime and the Mountain for Lannister (Kevan, Adam Mabrand?) and Cersei, Tyrion and The Hound for the Crown (ser Illyn Payne?).

If you want faith as 2nd chance, you could make it a path for the Crown, once Cersei is dead. Giving Tyrion to Lannister faction, and saying somehting like "the monks and hol knights supported the High Septon to take the rule of the kingdom from the high sept of baelor", giving them some heroes as Lancel Lannister. It happened in GoT.
 

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To talk about the number of factions we should first see which area of the map do you plan to add. You say 11 in westeros and 4 in essos is unbalanced, but unless you go too far to the east, westeros is much bigger than essos. Also, there is no much more other stuff in esso to add, maybe volantis?

Aegon as free cities path is nice.

Oh, Stannis! Right! Since they ruined him in GoT i forgot about him xD. Then i think you should add "The Crown" as faction. Otherway Lannisters will always lose. Stark and Tully vs Lannisters and Stannis vs Lannisters? Or Lannisters get Tyrell, Martell and Arryn as allies or they lose. With The Crown it would be more paired. Also, some players dont play well with "divided lands", and start with lands in west and east with the tully in the middle of your forces, can be a mess. This would also allow you to add more cool heroes: Tywin, Jaime and the Mountain for Lannister (Kevan, Adam Mabrand?) and Cersei, Tyrion and The Hound for the Crown (ser Illyn Payne?).

If you want faith as 2nd chance, you could make it a path for the Crown, once Cersei is dead. Giving Tyrion to Lannister faction, and saying somehting like "the monks and hol knights supported the High Septon to take the rule of the kingdom from the high sept of baelor", giving them some heroes as Lancel Lannister. It happened in GoT.
Good point. Here's some screenshots of the map so far. 480x480 . Westeros is bigger but not that much bigger.
I tried to make it as accurate as possible to the source map - although some areas are a little squished so I might have to expand some areas.
Hmm, Volantis is a Free City though... maybe I can split up the Free Cities into 2-3 players. South, Central and North factions.

LOL Stannis.... indeed. My map starts a bit into the War of the Five Kings. Renly just got rekt, Robb made it past the riverlands, etc.
Well, I was thinking about it but I decided against having an extra player for King Joffrey.
Lannisters are already OP enough, they have more resources, more + better troops, better walls to defends from, etc. Lannisters should be able to easily 1v2 the North.
However its actually a 2v2v1. Lannister is allied with Tyrell vs Stark allied with Tully vs Stannis Baratheon.
Even if both Stannis and North teamed up it would be very hard to beat Lannisters and Tyrells with their superior economy and better quality swords/armor.
Also the Lannister's land isn't divided - they have a clear path from Casterly Rock to Northern Reach to the western gate of King's Landing.
About Heroes, I was thinking about adding a ton of named unique elite units for minor characters and heroes for major characters. Each Player should get 5-10 heroes + 10 elites (lots).
So many heroes that it would be encouraged in the intro to keep some behind to path in case you get rekt lol.
All good names - they will all be in the map under Lannister control.

Yeah, the faith path for Lannister is definitely an option. That sounds pretty good... I wonder though... Is the High Sparrow Howland Reed?







BONUS EDIT: Here is the clear path for the Lannisters from the western gate straight to Casterly Rock. Another back up path is through Goldengrove and Clegane's Keep.
 
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Oh, you made a road trough stoney sept, is see. Afaik in the books it doesnt exist, you must go a bit more to the south or to the north into tully lands.
The north has been made smaller, right? The wall is like too close. Maybe is because winterfell is huge, idk.
If your game starts when robb is already in the south, you could consider to delete house tully. They crowned Robb as their king and fought as only 1 nation all the time. Indeed, their only cool hero is Brynden, who acted as explorer for Robb. So you could set both as 1 only big faction: House Stark & Tully or The King in the North. You could use that faction slot to implement House Bolton (roose and ramsay), who owned a good part of the north and were much more important.

If you need to make the north bigger you can reduce the size of the neck and the cape west of it, it is useless and has 0 lore. I see no dreadfort and no Barrowtown? They are important places of the north and could be the two main fortresses of House Bolton. Also if im not wrong Roose was in command of moat cailin when robb was at south, right?

Volantis is NOT a free city. Volantis is the PRIME free city. Its the heir of valyria and has so much power as all the other free cities combined.
You have not enough room but Ghiscari! Forget that faction. You could add another free city faction instead, here you have an idea:

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Red (Traders Free cities): Braavos, Pentos, Myr and Lys. Forget Tyrosh, is too tiny for you to add it.
Gray (Savage Free cities): Tyrosh, Qohor, Norvos and Ibben.
Pink (Volanis): Chorayne, Valyshar (or shellorys), Bolantis and Vantarys.
Dark Red (Daenerys): Astapor and Mereen. You have no room for yunkai in my opinion.

Red might go Aegon as his second path.
Volantis may get events if he restores the Valyrian empire, conquering Red and Gray, and he might get some extra stuff if he kills Daenerys and takes the 2 ghiscari cities.
Gray can have events to act as mercenary in westeros, since lots of people from Qohor and Norvos were hired. Vargo Hoat, the main merceary of the lannisters was from Qohor.
The Dothraki should be able to get resources and troops whenever they raze a free city, making them a growing horde. And Daenerys should have some goal to get them as allies.

Edit: I noticed red and dark red in paint looks like the same. But im sure you are smart enough to understand me xD. Red is the western ones and dark red is the only 2 ones from slavers bay.
 

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Oh, you made a road trough stoney sept, is see. Afaik in the books it doesnt exist, you must go a bit more to the south or to the north into tully lands.
The north has been made smaller, right? The wall is like too close. Maybe is because winterfell is huge, idk.
If your game starts when robb is already in the south, you could consider to delete house tully. They crowned Robb as their king and fought as only 1 nation all the time. Indeed, their only cool hero is Brynden, who acted as explorer for Robb. So you could set both as 1 only big faction: House Stark & Tully or The King in the North. You could use that faction slot to implement House Bolton (roose and ramsay), who owned a good part of the north and were much more important.

If you need to make the north bigger you can reduce the size of the neck and the cape west of it, it is useless and has 0 lore. I see no dreadfort and no Barrowtown? They are important places of the north and could be the two main fortresses of House Bolton. Also if im not wrong Roose was in command of moat cailin when robb was at south, right?

Volantis is NOT a free city. Volantis is the PRIME free city. Its the heir of valyria and has so much power as all the other free cities combined.
You have not enough room but Ghiscari! Forget that faction. You could add another free city faction instead, here you have an idea:

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Red (Traders Free cities): Braavos, Pentos, Myr and Lys. Forget Tyrosh, is too tiny for you to add it.
Gray (Savage Free cities): Tyrosh, Qohor, Norvos and Ibben.
Pink (Volanis): Chorayne, Valyshar (or shellorys), Bolantis and Vantarys.
Dark Red (Daenerys): Astapor and Mereen. You have no room for yunkai in my opinion.

Red might go Aegon as his second path.
Volantis may get events if he restores the Valyrian empire, conquering Red and Gray, and he might get some extra stuff if he kills Daenerys and takes the 2 ghiscari cities.
Gray can have events to act as mercenary in westeros, since lots of people from Qohor and Norvos were hired. Vargo Hoat, the main merceary of the lannisters was from Qohor.
The Dothraki should be able to get resources and troops whenever they raze a free city, making them a growing horde. And Daenerys should have some goal to get them as allies.

Edit: I noticed red and dark red in paint looks like the same. But im sure you are smart enough to understand me xD. Red is the western ones and dark red is the only 2 ones from slavers bay.
Interactive Game of Thrones Map with Spoilers Control Check the Gold Road. It runs through Deep Den, not the Stoney Sept.

Yeah, the north got squished vertically... plus winterfell is huge … might try to move it a bit south or something.
Hmmm maybe but idk. Riverlands army and playstyle is a bit different from the North so they are valuable. I also need them for Brotherhood or House Reed Paths.
Also would be a pain to defend against iron islands and Lannisters at the same time with just 1 player.
Bolton should be a path, not a starting faction since they don't do much until after the Red Wedding.
Great suggestion, I'll squish Flint's Finger for a bit more room in the North.
They are marked with a placeholder but I haven't made the castles/towns yet.
Err, not sure about who was in command - need to check.

True. Good ideas and nice edit there.
Indeed, Slaver's Bay is squished and might have to get enlarged for Yunkai which is needed for Dany's path of conquest (she will start in an instance and arrive in Astapor after.
There should be room for Astapor, Yunkai and Mereem if I enlarge it a little. Meereen is north of the river, so it should be fine.
That would be cool with Volantis restoring Valyria.. I was gonna do an instance for Valyria anyways for Ironborne event… could be of use to Free Cities too.
O0o0o that's interesting about Qohor.
Sounds good for Essos.
 

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Highgarden layout revamped.

I started composing unit models... Ujimasa Hojo's derivatives on Hive will be a solid foundation. His custom models and skins are A+ .
Having trouble finding units for White Walkers/Wights… I was thinking of Death Knight's for White Walkers with a custom skin and head attachment for blue eyes.
The custom skin will change the blue pale skin to pure pale white and the purple armor to a more blueish white color with ice texture.
Wights would be based off zombies/wretched (just gotta change the yellow/green eyes to blue and it should look legit).
I'll post some group pictures soon showing unit compositions for north westeros (first men), southern westeros (andals), and essos.
 

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Why there are crops inside the city? Could you put some placeholder units/buildings inside the city to compare the sizes?
 

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Why there are crops inside the city? Could you put some placeholder units/buildings inside the city to compare the sizes?
Crops texture is just part of the layout. There are gardens in and around Highgarden, gardens will be in the crops texture.
Yes, I will add that soon!
 

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Some unit comparisons and an early sneak peak at unit compositions.

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Ants from up here... :)

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High Garden Comparison

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The Others are mostly based off Death Knights and undead... I plan on making a skin for death knights so that they have ice armor. Then I'll add a head attachment for all units for glowing blue eyes or edit the models. From left to right, top to bottom: White Walker Cavalry, White Walker Infantry, Wight and White Walker Casters, and Wights. Wights that are only attainable from capturing enemy bases. Ice Spiders. Undead bear... maybe I'll delete just to spite D&D's show xD. Dragon Wight.

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Giants, Free Folk, Night's Watch. Dragons, Harpy, Targaryen units (missing a lot of eastern units).

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Stark Children, Iron Islands Uniques, North, Riverlands, Vale, Stormlands and Barratheon, Lannisters, Reach + Citadel. Base units lined by tier 1-3. Not sure if they will be base units for both Westeros and Essos... we'll see if I can get enough arab/bloodelf units.

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Ships! Ships compared to Iron Islands and some units on Pyke.

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