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Onyx

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Question of the day : Why is this forum so fucking dead?
 

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@SpamPolice May the curse of the gods be upon you! I've been suffering for 2 years now waiting for Ashes of Creation. Could you not have wait for the game to release then post about it...
 

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Question of the day : Why is this forum so fucking dead?
I think there are many reasons tbh. One of them being how Activision Blizz destroyed Reforged and all hopes with it.
 

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I think there are many reasons tbh. One of them being how Activision Blizz destroyed Reforged and all hopes with it.
Plus people growing up and having much more important things to do (Sadly).
 

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Yeah pretty much. Got a lot of stuff to do irl now and Reforged is so bad I'd rather play some other games when I have free time
 

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Yes I agree with all the reasons above
But when you think this united forum between BotR and UoS was made FOR Reforged
And that it's even more dead after release
It kinda hurts
 

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Yes I agree with all the reasons above
But when you think this united forum between BotR and UoS was made FOR Reforged
And that it's even more dead after release
It kinda hurts
The Warcraft 3 community didn't ask for much, but then we got Reforged and damn... It took stuff rather than gave.
 

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Warcraft 4 rather then reforged i was ok with warcraft as it was
 

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Yeah well, hopefully when Harald and Silence officially release their maps it's gonna bring some activity back here
With forum games, bug/balance threads and everything tied to new maps
Otherwise I don't think the forum gonna leave a lot longer uhhh
 

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I'm guessing it is also a sign of the times. Tempora mutantur et nos mutantur in illis.

I don't really know what a forum is meant to accomplish nowadays that Steam cannot provide. All we need is some steam discipline to know how to use the group functionality there and maybe handle a few things better in terms of communication... and that's about it.

Sure, it's not as much customization as this forum is in terms of what there is to talk about, since all threads there are equal to one another, but we don't really take full advantage of that here either. So... whats' the point of it?

This kind of forum is really a relic of the past.
Also, it being tied to a game that is... well it isn't dead but it sure is limping is also a rotten deal.

And I wouldn't hold my breath out for wc4. Even if it were to come out, do you really really trust Blizzard to do it justice? Did you not read the new terms of service they have for custom maps? Who would want to spend hours upon waking hours making a world, populating it, giving it meaning, just to hand it over for commercial bastardization by Blizzard?
 

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And I wouldn't hold my breath out for wc4. Even if it were to come out, do you really really trust Blizzard to do it justice? Did you not read the new terms of service they have for custom maps? Who would want to spend hours upon waking hours making a world, populating it, giving it meaning, just to hand it over for commercial bastardization by Blizzard?
I was already quite pessimistic about reforged in this forums thinking it will be meh reskin with some minor fixes for an easy cash-grab. It turned out worse than even I thought. They were greedy to the point of incompetence that they didn't spend any money on reforged and outsourced the art models cheaply as possible to Malayasia and astonishingly that was the only thing about the game that wasn't trash. Now with the huge refunds and negative reviews I doubt they'll spend another dime for Warcraft's RTS franchise. Hell even EA is now better than ActiBliz, at least they did work on Battlefront 2.

Whatever few people and resources that were allocated to WC3 are now moved to other projects with just enough left to keep the game barely working so they don't get sued. Their only interest in reforged was a quick and easy cash-grab, with that attempt failed they no longer have any interest in the franchise. The only thing that might improve WC3 at this point is its popularity in China and the work Netease has done and might do for WC3.

Imagine having expectations from a company that has fallen below EA and Netease in reputation...
 

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Imagine having expectations from a company that has fallen below EA and Netease in reputation...
Hit the nail on the head there.

I am going to say that there could be a redemption arc for Blizzard at some point in the future, it just doesn't seem to be now. This isn't anything new or anything unusual.

Lots of companies go through cycles and through periods where they lose focus on what is important... hell, people do it too and companies made of people. Everyone takes stuff for granted, thinking that if you don't put effort into X it will still be there for you. Be it health, relationships, skills, friends, whatever. Businesses are the same... they will assume that they have got a lock on some things and act accordingly.

Also, there is another, more perverse force at play and you can see it in any major company. And that is the shift of power in terms of decision making and product away from the people who directly work on the product and towards the people who sell or "manage" the product. Money rules the world and naturally, people who are perceived as bringing in the money are the ones that get promoted and get to make more decisions. The people who work on making a product are basically seen as a necessary expense to fulfill the vision of "product managers" and make features that the salesmen and marketing people can generate hype and hence, bring in the $$$. Hence, salesmen, marketing gurus and product managers get to be in charge.

The consequence is that most of these people have no idea of the work, effort and craftsmanship it takes to bring a product to life. Writing, programming, designing... it's a difficult thing to do right... and a labor intensive thing to do right... and a time consuming thing to do right. Where as the decision making people don't see things that way and most likely cannot even understand any of it.
 

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And I wouldn't hold my breath out for wc4. Even if it were to come out, do you really really trust Blizzard to do it justice?
if WC4 is gonna feature the Fourth War then no thanks they better make a WoW: Restart first where they remove all retcons from the start
 

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if WC4 is gonna feature the Fourth War then no thanks they better make a WoW: Restart first where they remove all retcons from the start
Some? Yes.
All? No.

As a major fan of the lore, I do agree that some retcons are really weird, but others are actually better than the original (Like chronicle Draenor).
 

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WHY HAVE YOU WOKEN ME FROM MY THOUSAND YEAR SLUMBER

@SpamPolice May the curse of the gods be upon you! I've been suffering for 2 years now waiting for Ashes of Creation. Could you not have wait for the game to release then post about it...
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rofl yeah what can I say. I've done the same thing to the boys I hang out /w in discord, and I torture them daily how in like, a years time or whatever it might be. we'll have a good mmo to play. that said do hit me up when it's up and around, I still very much intend to do the whole pirate / mercenary / trader guild on a island somewhere, with as many people as I can possibly find.
for that matter, all of you, hit me up or be hit up when the time comes.

also yeah fuck blizzard
 
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